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What is it?

Well for starters, it’s not the new Skyline GTR. Instead it’s referred to merely as the Nissan GTR. The name Skyline is no longer applicable because, according to the GTR’s creators, this is an all-new ‘multi-performance supercar’ which just so happens to be faster than a Porsche 911 Turbo – but which also costs two thirds the price of Porsche’s icon; Nissan GB anticipates a price of no more than £55k when sales begin in March 2009.

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P*ss poor writing.

So, in my hands, I can use the car as Lewis Hamilton would use the car? Bollox. On that basis, can I drive his company car please (?) - that's full of drivers aids so I should be able to use it as he does. Yeah right!!

Hamilton could get around the Ring quicker in my Picasso than I could get around the Ring in that Skyline - total fanboy, nonsensical writing IMO.

More Sutcliffe signature moments - G loading through the bends etc.

When will these journo's learn (?) - does he have a template for this sort of thing (?) - the names can be chopped and changed but the detail remains the same.

On the car though - I really like it. Anything that spanks a teutonic backside get's my vote.

 

 

Great looking car, with a badge of a no less reputable manufacturer on the back than Porsche. Lets face it Porsche is the BMW of the sports car world, i.e. plenty of them around. The GT-R is a car with a long history and pedigree that many people will not know about.

Sounds like it would lap Nurburgring faster than the 911 Turbo, even with a boot full of luggage. Oh, luggage, a word a 911 driver will not be familiar with. So I will spend 30K more for the privelidge of the badge, then go out and spend another 25K on a BMW to carry the luggage. Prat.

I hate people who follow the pack then look down their noses at those who don't have the latest badge on the bonnet as they do. Look mate I chose to expercise my right to chose my car, rather than follow the pack. You cloth eared clown.

 

i hate people who look down on others because they buy their cars on the basis of looks and image rather than technical merits. cars have analogies to clothes and people buy clothes on the basis of looks and how it makes them feel, whats wrong with that?

everyone has different needs and wants from a car and therefore their choice is based on their requirements and should be respected.

some people buy a porsche because they want a weekend toy (and it is a good weekend toy) and choose to have a BMW as a second car for daily use.  why do you have to call them a prat?

i would agree that if someone made a buying error based on their requirements then we can look down and laugh at them.  e.g. if someone wanted a practical car to carry 7 people and then went out and bought a Smart because it looked cute.

Calm down dear, it's all tongue in cheek.

Fantastic. I drive a 350Z and the GT-R is the car that I stupidly thought the 350 was going to be near to, but clearly the 350 is miles away. The 350 is a new Ford Capri with lots more torque, nothing more, and the with the GT-R Nissan have nailed the price/performance argument for this decade, much like the did with the R34 some years earlier. Trouble is the badge brigade won't like it 'cos Fred nextdoor doesn't know what it is and might even think you've fallen on hard times, changing an (old) 996 for a (new) Nissan and all that, shameful. If you're cute of course you can just smile and wait in a side road for Fred to drive by in his Aston in a side road sometime. I have been sent a pack from Nissan that gets me a test drive when it's here, quite how they think I can raise the extra £30k over what I paid for the 350 new beats me, but drive it I will. I expect I'll be immediately smitten, but I also hope Nissan have built in some excitement. That's why I didn't buy a Boxster, it's far too benign to be fun. If the GT-R is as much fun as it is dramatic, I might just mortgage the kids. Best of all, it's likley you could buy it new, do an intergallactic mileage, and nothing will ever break. As for another poster's comment about Lewis hamilton and Joe Bloggs, I reckon Steve is not far off right, and I think the comments originated from an article I read 15 years ago in Car magazine, when they got an ordinary Joe, and from memory Roland Ratzenberger, to drive round a circuit in an R32 V-Spec. Joe got with a couple of seconds of the now departed ace. The most interesting line I remember about that article was something like "To do the best time you need to keep the throttle nailed because the electronics can always give you less (than you ask for) but not more". Now electronics can play dances with engine torque and performance, and all the clever yaw and roll rate stuff has to be brilliance inscrutably excuted as only the Japanese seem to know how to do. I bet Joe would get closer in a GT-R.

The exterior of the car is fascinatng. No matter what angle I looked at it from - there's something about it which really grabs me, ruffles my hair and slaps my backside.

But the interior - oh dear.

But are car's like this about the interior?

Rather like it inside and out. at least all the buttons seem within reach and well laid out, something Porsche struggles to do.

As for electronics, did you see the Renault F1 car Hammond was attempting to drive? When in the end they modded the electronics so the engine played god save the queen, bloody show off's.

Bottom line is the majority of the world out there will still see it as a 'maxed'  Nissan. Worse than that it will be associated with the likes of Max Power and boy racers, like the R33/34's.

It's a shame as the GT-R is one of the finest cars out there and a bargain for what you get but a 'real world' fact is at 55k+ , the badge does matter.

I don't think Nissan are going to win over prospective buyers of a 911 Turbo or even regular Carrera buyers nor other marques that occupy this market sector . I am in the market for a 55-65k sports car and I will look at a used 911 Carrera S, V8 Vantage or Bentley Conti GT.

However, if I was still in my early to mid 20's i'd be at the front of the queue!!

The other concern I have is the lagtime between the launch ( Dec 07) and Uk sales (March 09)- that's 16 months!!. The car market will have moved on by then, will it still be such an impressive car then?

 

 

Maj1c (your number plate?) - can i ask what your buying criteria are please?

I'm interested as I think that right now, this is probably my favorite car of the moment, but my 20s were a few years ago now.  I would consider the GTR to be a more mature version of the Evo and Scooby brigade.  It even has 4 doors and a half decent boot.

True that second hand, the world is your oyster at this price point, but I would reckon that this GTR would hold its value even more fiercely than it holds the road.

The other reason why I'm interested is that I love helping people to choose cars, I feel it is the duty of every car nut to assist/ debate options when someone is buying :)

oooh, just thought.  if MAJ1C is your number plate... then are you Paul Daniels??!!

 

It is a shame that you chose to berate those who bring you informative and prompt scriptures on cars you (personally) are highly unlikely to drive, they merely attempt to give you a snippet of what the car would feel like to drive. Why you bother to read the magazine if you feel like this is bizare.

 

With regards the car in question your vote is not important in the slightest, in fact a rescindication of your vote would be most welcome.