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    Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 5:54 PM

    What’s new?


    Volkswagen obviously thinks that the crowded soft-roader segment can bear at least one more entrant, with the new Golf-based Tiguan now touching down in right-hand drive form.


    Underneath, it shares the same underpinnings as the current Volkswagen Golf, including a development of its “4Motion” four-wheel drive system, so don’t expect stellar performance off-road. We opted to test it with the still-novel 1.4-litre TSI 'twincharger' petrol engine, which uses both a...Read the full article

  • Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 5:54 PM

    What is the point of this car? 

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  • Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 6:12 PM

    The advertising campaign for this car just about sums up the pointlessness of it: "At home in the city". Das Auto? Das waste of time!

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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 6:42 PM

    It's a good job you Brits don't make anything any more. You'd go bust overnight.

    First the Autocar hotshot journos declare the new Tiguan is crap at launch because of its hopelessly outdated and noisy pump-düse diesel engine - er, it's got a brand new common rail TDI bozos(the 'roadtest' ed. obviously never drove it or lifted the bonnet before writing the report) - and now they follow up with a demolition job on the petrol.

    The Tiguan is already No.1 seller in its class in Germany since launch, way ahead of LR Freelander and even the BMW X3. Go to any comparable German car mag website and read its roadtest reports yourself. They all without exception have the Tiguan coming out top for overall performance and value for money.The latest from AutoBild is linked below. It pits the 'crap, underpowered, noisy' 1.4 TSI against the BMW X3 2.0i. Again it comes top by a clear margin. The 'tollen'(fantastic) TSI engine is picked out for particular praise! British Automotive journalism - you couldn't make it up. No wonder the Brits specialize in the finance sector - apparently? Northen Rock anyone? Oh yeah, the high price you reckon - £19 grand a bit - get used to higher prices thanks to your weak pound sterling. The same spec vehicle sells for €27,000 in Germany, which is £20,300 at €1=75p currently. So you're getting a bargain too. Get in there quick before the pound falls further and VW UK are forced into raising their prices!

    http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-x3-2.0i_-jeep-patriot-2.4-sport_-vw-tiguan-1.4-tsi_574696.html

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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 10:29 PM

    loather - did you like the new citroen C5 advert?  :p

     

    Bring it!!
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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 26, 2008 11:51 PM

    Just to reiterate Niall's earlier post; "What is the point of this car?"

    If you must have a medium sized Volkswagen (and I suppose some people must), why not buy a Golf? Exactly what does it offer over a Golf that offsets the increased bulk?

     

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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 8:28 AM

    Kee Law,

    no, watch zip TV, especially adverts. However, the new C5 looks great. Great job by the designers, making something look so fresh.

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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 8:50 AM

    Your comment on the VW Tiguan amazes me highly. I get a strong feeling that Autocar is either not an independent medium or you are just very biased against products of VW and Audi. The VW Tiguan is an extremely popular car in Europe in the medium SUV segment, it won "the best SUV of the year price" awarded by the readers of "Off-Road" a popular car magazine in Europe. It won all comparison tests with a wide margin which I red sofar in several car magazines of different European countries. The car offers very good driving capacities for an SUV with an enonomical and strong engine, it has a very practical, roomy and comfortable body. The 1.4 TSI engine is very economical in daily use, not when pushed hard like people will probably do in roadtests. The cars that came closest in the comparisontests are the Rover Freelander and the BMW X-3; the latter got only 4 stars though in the NCAP-crashtest. The Tiguan got 5. The offroad capacities are also very good for this type of car, though the Freelander might even be slightly better in this respect. The Honda CR-V,Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi Outlander are no match for the Tiguan in European car magazines. I expect the Renault Koleos will be a disappointment like the last Laguna and the Ford Kuga might be the only one to come close.

    The sense of this car is it appeal as a roomy all-purpose car, suitable for shopping but also for towing heavy loads. It has all the other advantages of an SUV but it is not too big for the city.

    My comment goes also for  the Audi A4; this car wins all comparison test in European car magazines and is seen as the standard for a premium midsize sedan or estate. Sorry for all the Ford fans of Autocar, but the Mondeo is regarded in Europe as a good car but in majority of the comparison tests it cannot beat a Audi A4 or a VW Passat. The body finish and engines lack premium quality.

     Ritsaart

  • Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 9:10 AM

    Ritsaart:

    Your comment on the VW Tiguan amazes me highly. I get a strong feeling that Autocar is either not an independent medium or you are just very biased against products of VW and Audi. The VW Tiguan is an extremely popular car in Europe in the medium SUV segment, it won "the best SUV of the year price" awarded by the readers of "Off-Road" a popular car magazine in Europe. It won all comparison tests with a wide margin which I red sofar in several car magazines of different European countries. The car offers very good driving capacities for an SUV with an enonomical and strong engine, it has a very practical, roomy and comfortable body. The 1.4 TSI engine is very economical in daily use, not when pushed hard like people will probably do in roadtests. The cars that came closest in the comparisontests are the Rover Freelander and the BMW X-3; the latter got only 4 stars though in the NCAP-crashtest. The Tiguan got 5. The offroad capacities are also very good for this type of car, though the Freelander might even be slightly better in this respect. The Honda CR-V,Toyota RAV4 and Mitsubishi Outlander are no match for the Tiguan in European car magazines. I expect the Renault Koleos will be a disappointment like the last Laguna and the Ford Kuga might be the only one to come close.

    The sense of this car is it appeal as a roomy all-purpose car, suitable for shopping but also for towing heavy loads. It has all the other advantages of an SUV but it is not too big for the city.

    My comment goes also for  the Audi A4; this car wins all comparison test in European car magazines and is seen as the standard for a premium midsize sedan or estate. Sorry for all the Ford fans of Autocar, but the Mondeo is regarded in Europe as a good car but in majority of the comparison tests it cannot beat a Audi A4 or a VW Passat. The body finish and engines lack premium quality.

     Ritsaart

     

    Do you work for VW group?

    Apart from the first 2 sentences and the last paragraph, your post reads like a press release for the Tiguan.

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    Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 9:17 AM

    No I do not work for the VW group, I am a car enthusiast, and I like independent and objective tests, based on bare facts and not on subjective feelings.

  • Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 9:19 AM

    loather:

    It's a good job you Brits don't make anything any more. You'd go bust overnight.

    First the Autocar hotshot journos declare the new Tiguan is crap at launch because of its hopelessly outdated and noisy pump-düse diesel engine - er, it's got a brand new common rail TDI bozos(the 'roadtest' ed. obviously never drove it or lifted the bonnet before writing the report) - and now they follow up with a demolition job on the petrol.

    The Tiguan is already No.1 seller in its class in Germany since launch, way ahead of LR Freelander and even the BMW X3. Go to any comparable German car mag website and read its roadtest reports yourself. They all without exception have the Tiguan coming out top for overall performance and value for money.The latest from AutoBild is linked below. It pits the 'crap, underpowered, noisy' 1.4 TSI against the BMW X3 2.0i. Again it comes top by a clear margin. The 'tollen'(fantastic) TSI engine is picked out for particular praise! British Automotive journalism - you couldn't make it up. No wonder the Brits specialize in the finance sector - apparently? Northen Rock anyone? Oh yeah, the high price you reckon - £19 grand a bit - get used to higher prices thanks to your weak pound sterling. The same spec vehicle sells for €27,000 in Germany, which is £20,300 at €1=75p currently. So you're getting a bargain too. Get in there quick before the pound falls further and VW UK are forced into raising their prices!

    http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-x3-2.0i_-jeep-patriot-2.4-sport_-vw-tiguan-1.4-tsi_574696.html

     

    Nice to see another continental European generalising about an entire nation on the Autocar Forums. Grow up.

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  • Re: Volkswagen Tiguan 1.4 TSI

    Feb 27, 2008 9:29 AM

    Ritsaart:
    No I do not work for the VW group, I am a car enthusiast, and I like independent and objective tests, based on bare facts and not on subjective feelings.

    All car choices are made subjectively. I've never met anyone who has made a car choice without their feelings coming into it. Where would be the fun in that? And as for bare facts, I defer to a famous Englishman who said something about "lies, damned lies and statistics". Tastes in cars vary from person to person, country to country and magazine to magazine; doesn't mean that the conclusions they draw aren't valid. Cool down, fella!

    PS I have just noticed that I am today's top poster (glances in mirror, horrified) ...oh my God, I have become JJ!

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