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Nov 28 2007

Nissan GT-R heralds the beginning of the end

Chris Harris

Your friend and mine Mr Steve Sutcliffe is currently over in Japan, driving the new Skyline GT-R (it doesn't matter what Nissan says, it will always be a Skyline). You'll probably be planning on reading his words on this very website on Saturday morning, possibly over a bacon sandwich. And if you're like me, you'll probably be looking forward to the write-up as much as the salted meaty goodness.

I've got one serious question to raise before all the excited frothing kicks off, though: was I the only person slightly confused by the fact that this new Nissan has managed to bust the 'agreed' 286bhp Japanese power limit by the small matter of 200bhp?

Before we all begin celebrating the disappearance of a silly, self-imposed power ceiling on all Jap motors, it's as well to know how Nissan coaxed the authorities into allowing such a potent machine. Because the truth is rather sinister.

In Japan, the GT-R's sat-nav (it doubles as the drive computer, left) is linked to the engine ECU. This means it knows where it is, and in principle at least, how fast it is allowed to travel at any given place. Sound terrifying? Well it should.

Nissan has stopped short of the full big-brother treatment, but for now the Japanese car is limited to 112mph on the road and will only allow the full 190mph once the navigation software is certain that the car is on a circuit.

Many people see the new GT-R as the resurrection of a great sports car, but the irony is it might just have launched the technology that will terminally damage enjoyable road driving in the future.

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About Chris Harris

The world needs no keener autophile than Chris. When not worrying about his carbon footprint, he races Porsches, which clears his mind. His collection of cars is too long to list.

Comments

Jon Hardcastle November 28, 2007 5:29 PM

This car is long overdue, and while you have a point about the electronics, the speed it is limited to sits well with me.

Some say cars should not be allowed to go over 70 in this country, while I think this is severley prohibitive, there is rarely cause to travel over 90 let alone 100 apart maybe if you are on derestricted autobahn or on a track.

The speed being limited should not detract from a car being enjoyable, afterall Autocar themselves often write about the handling nuances of vehicles being enjoyed a much lower speeds. It's not all about outright speed rather the time taken to get to a speed or the time taken to get from one speed to another that really matters when measuring performance.

Griffin911 November 29, 2007 1:35 PM

I don't see any problem with speed limiter, it could infact save lives. It would stop these gits who have their license from woolworths doing ridiculous speeds on the motorways. It would make going to a track a special occasion, more freedom to do what the car was made for.

T1berious November 29, 2007 4:17 PM

I love performance cars and the idea of someone limiting the speed until you get to a circuit is a great idea. Just think of the amount of track days that people will feel more encouraged to do rather than taking their chances on our less than perfect roads.

Alastair Inglis November 30, 2007 10:49 AM

the power limit in Japan has been a bit of a fallacy for a long time. I remember reading in Max Power (sorry) over ten years ago that manufacturers would break the limit but only quote '286bhp' or whatever it was. I heard this elsewhere, but i'm sure you must have too. Mind you i do agree that being 200bhp north of the limit is 'brave'.

Peter Nunn December 2, 2007 1:34 PM

The Japanese power cap (the so-called 'gentlemens' agreement') was abolished about 3 years ago, so on that score it is OK for Nissan to go over "280 bhp."

No imported car has ever been subjected to that restriction. It has only ever referred to domestically made cars, as a sop to transport ministry bureaucrats.

However, it is still a very delicate issue and Nissan had to prove to the Japanese transport ministry that a) the new GT-R was safe; b) could not be easily tampered with/tuned by the aftermarket crowd and c) promise that the 480 bhp power and the GT-R's speed would not be heavily promoted in advertising etc. In fact, quite the reverse...

. The Sat Nav issue you mentioned is something else and cuts out the 180 km/speed limiter when you're at a track. Away from the track, the limiter cuts in again, but again this is only for Japan.

The bigger issue here - yes Big Brother knowing where you are going in the GT-R via the clever sat/nat - is very sinister. And yes, theoretically, the thin edge of the wedge. Will it apply to other cars, and when? No one knows..

But please, do we have to have  "Jap motor" in this day and age?

Peter Cavellini December 3, 2007 9:21 PM

Sorry, it maybe armegeddon on wheels for Porsche,but from the side it is just plain ugly, unimaginative,an americanised coupe.Maybe its because its in silver i just do'nt know i just think there are better looking cars out there - can anybody suggest a few i know it a personal thing but there must be some common ground. I'll start it  Porsche 911 GT3 RS - AND YOURS WOULD BE-----?

Jon Hardcastle December 4, 2007 12:30 PM

The new Nissan GT-R. It looks brutal from all angles.

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